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Congrats! Snippets looks great! The PHP itemizer is looks pretty slick too !

#1 - March 23rd, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Good work soldiers!

#3 - March 23rd, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Great to see that Espresso ships…. errr, downloads version 1. Congrats, I’d say! It’s good to have YAT (Yet Another Tool) added to the Mac Webdev arena. Glad to see the Quick Publish and Snippets sections added to the final. Hope to see a Quick Publish button in the Settings screen in version 1.0.1 soon though, as it is a tedious thing to add it to every single page of a site. That said I’m not entirely sure if Espresso is worth buying yet. It’s powerful, goodlooking and very promising, but as it is now it’s no replacement for either C from P or T from A.O. I hope you can make it into the allmighty WebDev Powertool it potentially is. It probably will be when CSSEdit is part of the package (as in ‘integrated’). 14 Days to make up my mind, eh.

#5 - March 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 PM

I cant believe the CSS editor is currently plain and very unlike CSSEdit.

You guys could had a GREAT hit if you insert CSS Edit inside the Css editor of Espresso.

The CSS editor sucks completely, and there is no way to have a visual editor of the CSS. You have to manually edit the text.

I would really buy Espresso if it had that feature (among others). Guess I´ll stick with DreamWeaver + CSSEdit.

#7 - March 23rd, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Great work on the beginnings of a fantastic editor, guys; I’m very much a fan. Performance is solid and the user interface is simply beautiful; better than all of the competition.

I feel quite differently than the others requesting a more robust CSS editor. I understand that Espresso is aimed a bit more at hard core developers and, as a self-proclaimed hard core developer, I would be absolutely deterred from the application if a “fancy” CSS editor was added to the application. I might even venture to say I’d be somewhat insulted.

Also, the Verle illustration is so amateur! Perhaps provide us with a (hack-free) method of disabling it?

Keep up the good work!

#9 - March 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Congrats for the Espresso 1.0 launch !
If you don’t add a CSSEdit-like CSS editor, could you add a function (button) to open .css files in CSSEdit ?
It could be a good agreement imho.

#11 - March 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Looks very promising, but I’ll have to see if it really can replace TextMate or BBEdit on a daily basis.

The “add tag” button is nice, but IMO if you have a selection that button should WRAP the selection with a tag, not replace it.

#13 - March 23rd, 2009 at 11:54 PM

What a great release. I compared it side by side to Coda and I must admit that for some reason unbeknown to me, I’m much more drawn to Espresso. With that said, I’m a bit disappointed that the CSS editing isn’t as robust as that of CSSEdit’s. I just wish that you guys can incorporate CSSEdit into Espresso. Either way, I’m looking forward to the next release. =]

#15 - March 24th, 2009 at 12:26 AM

Sorry — totally forgot to finish the thought on my last post!

I think Cali Cardiff’s comment (#12) said it best: “Anyone who’s serious about putting web sites together should be able to code by hand.” My attraction to an application like this is that it doesn’t have too many extra features tacked on. CSSEdit is a tool for a different audience, and, really, is it in MacRabbit’s interest to blow away their flagship application?

#17 - March 24th, 2009 at 12:58 AM

Overlooking the obvious stuff (Live preview doesn’t work via the local server & the glaring absence of visual CSS editing), I’m still really disappointed that you can’t resize the sidebar globally. I use a lot of snippets and its a pain to have to resize the bar for *every single file*. Moreover even the snippet type toggles from file to file (between standard and user). Please fix this. It’s incredibly annoying.

#19 - March 24th, 2009 at 2:09 AM

Congratulations! You guys must be feeling pretty good right about now.

Enjoying Espresso very much and looking forward to following its development.

#21 - March 24th, 2009 at 4:01 AM

Would like to see some screencasts on this. Trying to determine how it compares to Coda. I have a license to Coda but If this works better for me will definitely get it.

#23 - March 24th, 2009 at 3:11 PM

Again, another mac code editor without basic features. No brace matching, no auto-indenting, can’t just open a tab and goto File / open from FTP to open a random file of my choice, no Perl support (but yes, somebody could create a Sugar for that), no highlight of current line… I could go on. Mac developers really need to start looking at Windows and editors like Editplus just to get the basic editor part right and THEN start adding all the fun Mac like stuff.

No Mac editor gets it right, and that’s why I still need Parallels.

#25 - March 24th, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Espresso is featured in the MacHeist.com bundle once they reach a set amount of sales on the bundle it will be unlocked

#27 - March 25th, 2009 at 2:39 AM

I just have to say, you guys @ macrabbit are absolutely amazing. I know you have busted your tails on Espresso. To participate in MacHeist by allowing users to own this amazing product along with other apps for a great price is truly generous. I wish I could meet you all in person and shake your hand Its developers like you that make the Mac experience WAY more that owning and using computer. Thanks so much for your dedication and hard work. I, personally, really appreciate it and wish you all the success a Mac developer could have!

#29 - March 25th, 2009 at 3:19 AM

Just letting anyone who doesn’t frequent the forums or irc that there is now a jQuery sugar!

http://wiki.macrabbit.com/forums/viewthread/222/

#31 - March 25th, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Hello,

I am very interested in Espresso and as a CSSedit lover, I would be happy to pay for Espresso ASAP. Was wondering though if it is possible for you guys to put up a screencast on how to start getting the most out of Espresso?

Also like some others have said. I would just be happy if I could easily open .css files in CSSedit. I was actually quite surprised when I was using the betas that this was not possible.

Keep up the great work.

#33 - March 25th, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Great work, looks promising! However, i miss custom keyboard shortcuts, which is key for me to get a good workflow when working on a non american keyboard. Keep up the good work!

#35 - March 25th, 2009 at 5:51 PM

I adore Macrabbit. CSS Edit is the best CSS editor of all time! And Espresso is more easy and quick than Coda, at least for me.

Only miss a feature to be perfect: a visual editor, like Dreamweaver, at least for write. I’m spanish, and I don’t want to write each special character manually (é, ñ, etc.). I want a visual editor for heads (h1 to h6), paragraphs, lists, strong, italic… The basic features to write. The rest of code is easy to write =P

Great job, dudes!

#37 - March 25th, 2009 at 10:41 PM

While I’ve been checking out Espresso — I’m a CSSEdit user — I’m also a TextMate user, and I find Richard Smith’s comment above somewhat bemusing. I don’t want to plug the “competition” too much, but I’m quite sure that TM’s brace matching, smart indenting, Perl support (not to mention a hundred-odd other languages/template systems), and highlighting of the current line are not figments of my imagination. TextMate doesn’t have integrated FTP support, but it has what I actually need (well, desire) more: integrated Subversion support. Most OS X FTP clients, like Transmit, can be configured to let you double-click to edit files in the text editor of your choice, though (and saving in the editor will automatically upload the file back). I’ll presume you mean “smart indenting,” i.e., being context-aware so the editor indents one tab stop after ending a line with a brace in a C-like language or a colon in Python and so on; “auto-indenting” generally just means keeping the indent of a new line even with the line above it, which even the free TextWrangler has. (It’s worth noting that TextWrangler also has everything else you asked for, including the FTP support.)

None of this is to knock Espresso, which looks quite promising. I haven’t investigated the 1.0 version yet to see whether it adds some of the TextMate features that I most love (I know it has snippets–the coolness of which can’t be overestimated–but I don’t know if it has smart indenting, or if “sugars” can supply that functionality).

Incidentally, I’m not concerned much with whether Espresso has the full power of CSSEdit in it. I own CSSEdit already, and darned if that doesn’t have the full power of CSSEdit in it right now!

#39 - March 26th, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Is there an issue with creating a “new tag” it seems to:

a) not wrap around a highlighted part of code and;
b) mirrors itself for instance you type and then continue to type .. href=”" within that opening tag it mirrors to the closing tag the same thing –

Its rather frustrating since I’d have to click elsewhere and then back to finish adding or alternatively delete the mirrored code.

#41 - March 26th, 2009 at 3:09 AM

Haha .. ok well it was an href tag or [A] tag that you start typing within the opening tag and as said mirrors your text within the closing tag.

Didnt expect it to convert the tags into a link even with broken spaces in the above comments.

#43 - March 26th, 2009 at 3:15 AM

Did you guys disable live preview for the trial version? If so, I might suggest you re-think that decision… Live Preview is the biggest part of Espresso for me, and if I hadn’t already had a chance to preview it with the betas I would never even consider purchasing Espresso without it. As it is, there’s no way to tell the feature even exists and no mention of it not being in the trial… at the very least you should make people aware of what the trial version is missing.

#45 - March 26th, 2009 at 11:35 AM

JT, do you remember back in beta2 when we all complained that we couldn’t find the preview button and so MacRabbit added one in beta3? Well they took it back out. Preview seems to be hiding back under the “new” menu. Of course it still doesn’t work from a local server (you need to manually refresh) and it doesn’t feature X-Ray or any sort of inspector so it’s not exactly a useful live preview but they certainly didn’t remove it.

#47 - March 26th, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Well look at that. It is dynamic. I don’t work with HTML so I just thought they moved it.

#49 - March 27th, 2009 at 12:30 AM

At least for me, there is still no button even in an HTML document…

But I found that I can customize the toolbar and add it back…

I had thought it disabled because the Preview menu is all greyed out… not sure why it’s even there.

I really don’t understand why MacRabbit is downplaying the usefulness of this feature so much, trying to hide it, etc. To see what I’m coding as I code is invaluable and essential.

#51 - March 27th, 2009 at 2:46 PM

JT: I think they’re downplaying the preview feature because it doesn’t actually work under most conditions. Considering that one of the strengths of Espresso is that it supports a wide variety of languages (via sugars), its a bit shortsighted to have a preview system that doesn’t work with any of those languages. As it stands only people working in static HTML can even use the preview and arguably that’s not even the audience for this app.

#53 - March 27th, 2009 at 10:26 PM

I’d love to see support for keyboard navigation in the sidebar. Until then, having to use the mouse all the time is kind of limiting.
Other than that, I love the way it works. Can’t wait for it to be unlocked in the MacHeist bundle!

#55 - March 28th, 2009 at 8:22 AM

I love this tool very much.
thank you for providing such a amazing progame.
Hope you can offer a multi-language vision.

#57 - March 30th, 2009 at 3:24 AM

Hello,

I will try to get contact this way. Since the technical email support is horrible.
I emailed them 1 week ago and i still have not got any reply. I mailed them like 3-4 times with crash and feedback information, but they remain silence…

A pretty negative experience with the support desk if you ask me.

Sure you can be busy for some days. But taking more than 7 days to reply to emails is just “not done”.

I hope you read this, and improve your email support. Because this is not working…

#59 - April 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 AM

its REALLY cool, and Im loving the auto upload to server thing, but falls over badly when you also have a CSS file open in CSSEdit and Espresso whereby CSSEdit seems to ‘loose’ the file. Espresso’s CSS editor is just not as good as CSSEdit.

Also, sometimes when editing the CSS file (even within Espresso) the Espresso preview seems to drop the CSS styling, making it useless.

I hope these are fixed and Ill be close to buying the full version.

BTW, where’s your twitter account?

#61 - April 6th, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Great release. I jumped on it and paid the day it was released. Two days later, it’s on MacHeist (which I also picked up). Is there any difference between the regular and MacHeist version?

I’m a developer and I like supporting indy Mac development, but jeez couldn’t you wait a bit so early adopters wouldn’t feel like such a chump.

#63 - April 7th, 2009 at 12:59 AM

Will you be putting up user forums so that we can discuss Espresso? Having a central forum would be cool.

#65 - April 7th, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Find and replace across open documents/project would be the only item I would love to see added. Nice work, I like this much better than Dreamweaver.

#67 - April 7th, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Great, I purchased it and it restructured my daily workflow. But I still think that many basic features are just missing. The active line won’t be highlighted, you can’t create bookmarks for FTP connections, the project list won’t be updated after a change in Finder, you can’t save as projects, you can’t open the CSS files in CSSEdit (if you own it) because the CSS editor SUCKS! (I am a huge fan of CSSEdit, too!) I don’t understand why you released Espresso in such an incomplete status and didn’t wait to make it great.

I hope you will release some updates and bring these key features and won’t wait until 2.0.

#69 - April 8th, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Espresso should be set up so that when you click Stylesheets, it checks or there is an option to check (the first time) to see if there is a licensed copy of CSSEdit on the computer. If there is, then that is what is used instead of this stripped down version that forces me to open a second application to get my work done. Do I know what kind of labor is involved in doing something like that? No, I don’t, and I don’t care, because that’s not my bailiwick. I do care that, for me, Espresso can’t be the all-in-one application it should be, because I don’t want to take a step (or five) backwards from CSSEdit and use what is included with Espresso. Yuck. This seems to be a major gripe with Espresso, and I certainly hope MacRabbit steps up to the plate here.

#71 - April 9th, 2009 at 3:38 PM

I’m a Dreamweaver & Coda user. Obviously i much prefer Coda over Dreamweaver, it’s just superior. Espresso though (which i own a copy of now, yes I own a copy of all 3 competing software apps), is both great and bad.

There are alot of things about it that i love and was very excited to discover as i played with it. However it falls short on many fronts as well. There seem to be quite a few glitches and bugs throughout the application, which is understandable for a new program, but it’s out of beta now, why’s it still buggy?

Love the program, but it’s not a Coda killer quite yet. Patch up all the bugs and listen to the communities feature request and it will be a Coda killer without question, fact is, it’s not there yet, and still needs alot of work.

#73 - April 10th, 2009 at 12:06 PM

“And anyone who wants to lay out a book should be able to code that by hand, too.”

I will pretend I didn’t read this and still consider you a decent human being.

#75 - April 11th, 2009 at 6:51 AM

Congratulations!! Awesome software
Now I can drop my current html editor Textmate to get a super welcome to Espresso ^^ The soft still need some improvements but it’s a serious alternative to other editor.

And please, please, please improve CSSEdit soon!

#77 - April 12th, 2009 at 2:13 AM

Espresso 1.0 looks great, especially with the third-party PHP/HTML Sugar. However — and I really don’t want to sound like a miser here — I’ve just tried to pay for the application, and the total price would have been £66! Are you serious?

I must stress that I’m not averse to buying software at all. If something’s useful, I’ll pay for it — I’ve purchased Coda, NaviCat, Pixelmator and lots more. £66 for an application that’s only just out of beta seems insanely expensive, though. I’m also not sure what your position is with charging UK users 21% “sales tax”. I was under the impression that sales between European countries were VAT-free? If my company invoices a company in Belgium [for example], we don’t charge VAT, and it wouldn’t actually be legal for us to do so.

Like I say, I like Espresso and I can see that a lot of hard work has gone into it. I really don’t think I can justify spending £70 on it, though.

#79 - April 14th, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Hi, is there support for templates? like relying on a master page with editable areas like dreamweaver does?

#81 - May 31st, 2009 at 11:31 AM

As a CSSEdit user, I’m a little surprised there’s no CSSEdit integration in Espresso. All that would be required would be a preference item “edit CSS with CSSEdit”, and some hooks in Espresso for CSSEdit to send Espresso messages when the file’s been saved or when the Preview window should be updated. That’d be nice.

#83 - July 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 AM

I’m going to buy CSSEdit only. Espresso is a good editor, autocomplete code works fine, but there is not autocomplete code for classes developed by user. I hope it will supported soon.

#85 - November 26th, 2009 at 3:33 AM